Showing posts with label J.C Clegg. Show all posts
Showing posts with label J.C Clegg. Show all posts
5.12.17
FA Cup Final, 1889
Here is a programme for the 1889 FA Cup Final between Wolverhampton Wanderers and Preston North End's Invincibles (the Cup version, with Mills- Roberts in the place of Trainer).
Major Marindin would undoubtedly have been rooting for Wolves' English XI (including 7 internationals). Wolves had finished 3rd in the League, conceding 9 goals across the 2 meetings with Preston.
Dewhurst, Ross and Thomson were the scorers as Preston won 3-0 to secure the Double.
1.1.16
North Wales v Sheffield
FOOTBALL.
SHEFFIELD V. NORTH WALES
This match was
played on the Racecourse, at Wrexham, on Saturday, November 18. The weather was
very unfavourable, it being a damp, foggy, miserable day. Owing to the laurels
which the Sheffield team have won, great interest was attached to the match,
and notwithstanding the inclement weather, upwards of 250 were present on the course.
Sheffield won the toss, and chose the goal nearest the grand stand. A little
before three o'clock the ball was kicked off by Mr Kendrick, the captain of the
North Wales Club. The Sheffield team soon began to press down on their
opponents, but were smartly repulsed by Mr Kendrick. They, however, soon
recovered their lost ground, and at 2.50 the ball was neatly shot through by Mr
Gregory. Another goal was nearly made by the Sheffield men, but the goal was
saved by Mr E. Evans, of the other club, putting the ball over the bar with his
hands. Some great difficulty was then experienced by the home team in keeping
their goal from the invaders. It soon became evident that there was no chance
of success against the Sheffield players, the North Wales men stumbling on to
the grass, while scarcely one of the opposite team was seen to fall. The Welsh
goal required all the assistance that could be rendered, no attempt having been
made to secure a goal. Mr J. C. Clegg, twice in succession, shot the ball
within a few inches of the post, but failed in securing a goal. A raid was then
made by the home team into the Sheffield ground, and Mr Davies, succeeding in
neatly passing the ball to Mr Underbill, an excellent shot was made at the
goal, and the goal keeper, possessing a long arm, managed to lift the ball over
the bar. This infused fresh vigour into the first team. A scrimmage shortly
afterwards ensued close to the strangers’ goal, which was ultimately taken by
the North Wales at 3.15. The ball was then again kicked off, and some good play
was witnessed, Mr Mosforth succeeding in placing the ball near to goal, but his
intentions were frustrated by Mr Clegg, who secured a goal for the strangers.
The home team, up to half time, made the scoring a difficult matter for the
Sheffield men, although. they were often in close proximity to the North Wales
goal, but after the game was again resumed, the Sheffield team began to show to
advantage, and quickly ran their score up. When the game terminated, after an
hour and a half's playing, the goals secured by the Sheffielders were six to
the North Wales's one.
The following
comprised the teams:
Sheffield; J.
C. Clegg (captain), W. E. Clegg, W. H. Carr, W. H. Stacey, W. Mosforth, J.
Houseley, J. Hunter, W. Wilkinson, G. Anthony, P. Andrews, and R. Gregory; Mr
W. P. Dix, umpire.
North Wales:
Ll. Kenrick (captain), H. Evans, senior, (goal), R. S. Richards, J. Jones, E.
A. Cross, G. F. Thomson, W. H. Davies, C. Spencer, Thomas Higham, Dr Gray, and
J. Underbill; Mr R. Mills, referee.
In the evening the Sheffield team were invited
by their opponents to the Wynnstay Arms Hotel, where Mr J. B. Murless had
prepared an excellent dinner. The chairman was Lieutenant-Colonel Jones, and
the vice- chair was occupied by Lieutenant Evan Morris.
Cambrian News and Merionethshire Standard 24.11.76
A number of present or future internationals on show here as for Sheffield the Cleggs,W. H. Carr, Billy Mosforth and Jack. Hunter would all represent England . North Wales featured 6 players who would represent the Principality -Kenrick, Dr Gray, Edwin Cross, Jack Jones, George F Thomson and William H Davies.
19.2.15
The toss of a coin...
In the long history of the FA Cup only one tie has ever been decided in a hotel.
The hotel, pictured above, was The Raven in Shrewsbury. The match was a first round tie between Shropshire Wanderers and Sheffield FC in the 1873-74 season.
Having drawn 0-0 at Bramall Lane the sides replayed at Shrewsbury Race Course on 17th November 1873.
The replay also ended 0-0 (with Sheffield reduced to 9 men by injuries). It was then agreed to settle the match on the toss of a coin.
Sheffield and Rotherham Independent, 19.11.73
Interesting to note that the idea of deciding the match on a coin toss came up at the after match supper, rather than right away at the end of the game. Victorian match reports frequently included coverage of the hospitality arrangements, but on this occasion they were central to the outcome!
Some noteworthy individuals took part in this match- J.C. Clegg played in the first England XI and later served as both chairman and president of the Football Association. On the Shropshire Wanderers' side were Llewelyn Kenrick - founder of the Football Association of Wales and Wales' first captain and John Hawley Edwards, who represented both England and Wales in international football.
19.8.14
Sheffield and England in the 19th Century...
The City of Sheffield was a major centre of footballing development , and its influence on the evolution of the Association game cannot be overlooked.
There were Sheffield men present in the England XI right from the very start. Charlie Clegg played in the 5th 'Alcock International' and also in the first official international in 1872. Clegg, who went on to be a massively influential administrator, later complained about the snooty attitude of his southern teammates.
During the 19th century 7 Sheffield based clubs had players capped by England:
During the 19th century 7 Sheffield based clubs had players capped by England:
Reverend John Robert Blayney Owen
Jack Hunter - in the 7 internationals in which he played England won only once and conceded 31 goals! He went on to lead Blackburn Olympic to FA Cup victory, being largely responsible for the professional approach they took to the game.
Billy Mosforth-The Little Wonder, often described as England's first working class player (more on this matter in the near future) and the first player to represent both Wednesday and Sheffield United.
United's first international- Harry Lilley
Michael Whitham
Raby Howell- the first Roma to play for England.
England's most famous 1 cap wonder? Billy Foulke
The Wednesday
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Charles Clegg
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Forward
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1 cap
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1872
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William Clegg
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Half Back
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1 cap
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1873
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Billy Mosforth
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Outside Left
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5 caps
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1877-82
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Teddy Brayshaw
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Centre Half
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1 cap
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1887
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Billy Betts
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Centre Half
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1 cap
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1889
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Fred Spiksley
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Outside Left
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7 caps
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1893-98
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Tom Crawshaw
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Centre Half
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10 caps
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1895-1904
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Sheffield FC
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John Owen
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Forward
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1 cap
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1874
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John Hudson
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Half Back
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1 cap
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1883
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Owlerton
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William Carr
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Goalkeeper
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1 cap
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1875
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Heeley
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Jack Hunter
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Half Back
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7 caps
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1878-1882
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Sheffield Albion
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William Clegg
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Forward
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1 cap
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1879
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Billy Mosforth
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Outside Left
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4 caps
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1879-80
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Thursday Wanderers
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Thomas Heathcote
Sorby
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Forward
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1 cap
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1879
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Sheffield United
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Harry Lilley
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Left Back
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1 Cap
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1892
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Michael Whitham
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Right Back
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1 Cap
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1892
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Ernest Needham
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Half Back
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16 Caps
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1894-1902
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Raby Howell
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Right Half
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1 Cap
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1895
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Billy Foulke
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Goalkeeper
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1 Cap
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1897
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Tommy Morren
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Centre Half
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1 Cap
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1898
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Harry Thickett
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Right Back
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2 Caps
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1899
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10.2.14
Sheffield v Glasgow: 1870s
The earliest expressions of cross-border football rivalry date from 1872, with Queen's Park playing Wanderers at the Oval. This of course was also the year that the officially recognised international matches between Scotland and England began. The next club match was not until January 1875 when Queen's Park took on Notts County.
An important addition to this scheme of things came in the form of the Sheffield v Glasgow series of games, the first of which took place at Bramall Lane on March 14th 1874. The early matches at Sheffield were played under the Sheffield Rules (unification of the FA and Sheffield Rules occurred in 1877) and those in Glasgow under the rules of the Scottish Football Association.
Reading the local press of the day Sheffield clearly had a very vibrant football culture, with numerous matches and with some clubs fielding 3 XIs. The local newspapers were also keen to point out the distinction between the Sheffield team we are looking at here (the representative side drawn from the whole of the Sheffield FA) and Sheffield FC (who played the 1866 match against the FA).
In using newspaper archives in order to try and establish the clubs from which the Sheffield team was drawn I found that some of the players appeared for different club sides from week to week . In some cases I was unable to establish club affiliation.
1874
Sheffield 2 Glasgow 2
Yorkshire County Cricket Ground, Bramall Lane
14.03.74
Sheffield
W.H Carr (Owlerton/ Fir Vale) *
J Marsh (Wednesday)
W.H Stacey (Wednesday/Hallam)
J.C Clegg (Wednesday)*
J Houseley (Brightside)
H.E Dixon (Sheffield FC)
J.R.B Owen (Sheffield FC)*
R Gregory (Hallam/ Fir Vale )
J Hunter (Sheffield Heeley)*
T Buttery (Exchange/Wednesday/ Brightside)
W Wilkinson (Fir Vale)
* England internationals.
Glasgow
R Gardner (Clydesdale)*
J Taylor (Queen's Park)*
D Wotherspoon (Clydesdale)*
J.J Thompson (Queen's Park)*
C Campbell (Queen's Park)*
F Anderson(Clydesdale)*
J.B Weir (Queen's Park)*
W Mackinnon (Queen's Park)*
A Mackinnon (Queen's Park)*
H McNeill (Queen's Park)*
J.H Wilson (Clydesdale)
* Scotland internationals.
E Bowling (Exchange/Wednesday)
J.C Clegg (Albion)*
W.E Clegg (Albion/Wednesday)
W.H Carr (Owlerton)
A Wood (Heeley)
J Hunter (Heeley)*
J.G Wylie (Wednesday)
W.H Stacey (Wednesday)
R Gregory (Hallam)
W Wilkinson (Fir Vale)
J Marsh (Wednesday)
Glasgow
R Gardner (Clydesdale)*
J McPherson (Clydesdale)*
J Wotherspoon (Clydesdale)
J Hunter (3rd Lanark Rifle Volunteers)*
W Miller (3rd Lanark Rifle Volunteers)*
D Reid (3rd Lanark Rifle Volunteers)
J.B Connell (Eastern)
A Kennedy (Eastern)*
P Andrews (Eastern)*
W.C Davidson (Western)
D McLiesh (Dumbarton)
W.H Carr (Owlerton)
J.C Clegg (Wednesday)*
W.E Clegg (Wednesday)
J Hunter (Heeley)*
R Gregory (Hallam)
W Mosforth (Albion)*
J Houseley
S Charles (Attercliffe)
G Anthony
J.G Wylie (Wednesday)
W Orton (Wednesday)
Glasgow
A McGeoch (Dumbreck)*
H McNeil (Queen's Park)*
J Hunter (3rd Lanark Rifle Volunteers)*
G.M Wilson (Clydesdale)
A Kennedy (Eastern)*
J Campbell (Rangers)
J Phillips (Queen's Park)*
J.J Lang (Clydesdale)*
M McNeil (Rangers)*
P Andrews (Eastern)*
W Mackinnon (Queen's Park)*
First Hampden
03.02.77
Sheffield
W.H Carr
J Houseley
R Gregory
W.E Clegg (Wednesday)
J Hunter (Heeley)*
J.C Clegg (Wednesday)*
P Andrews**
G Anthony
A Ramsden
R Martin
W Mosforth (Albion) *
** Scottish international
R Gardner (Clydesdale)*
R Neill (Queen's Park)*
G.M Wilson (Clydesdale)
C Campbell Queen's Park
J Phillips (Queen's Park)*
J.B Weir (Queen's Park)*
J Richmond (Clydesdale)*
W Mackinnon (Queen's Park)*
J Hunter (3rd Lanark Rifle Volunteers)*
H McNeil (Queen's Park)*
T.C Highet (Queen's Park)*
It is recorded that Sheffield played a 2-2-6 fornation. The Scots were described as a wonderfully fast, hardy, astute and wiry team.
P Andrews had moved to Leeds and it was noted that Lang was surprisingly overlooked by Sheffield, having moved there (ostensibly to work in a cutlery factory, in fact he was paid to play for Wednesday).
Wilkinson sustained an injury whilst cutting the bread at breakfast on the day of the game
it was noted that glasgow practiced together weeks preperation.
The goal came in the 5th minute when Carr palmed a corner kick from Hunter into his own goal
*some sources record 2 matches played in Feb 1878- contemporary press reports record only 1.
Sheffield were now criticised by their own press for passing too much! A more direct style was urged.
Glasgow's opener was possibly a phantom goal by one of the McNeil brothers.
After 20 minutes Britten added a second after a long run and a flying kick .
Campbell scored Glasgow's third.
Cursham pulled one back with a header from a corner (off his occiput, the report says).
In the 2nd half Cursham narrowed the deficit further with a slick shot.
M Mcneill completed the scoring, a header from a cross provided by his brother.
Sheffield
T Lawson
J.C Clegg (Wednesday)*
W.E Clegg (Wednesday)
T.H Sorby
A.W Cursham*
W Mosforth (Albion)*
R Gregory (Hallam)
J Houseley (Exchange)
G.B Marples
J Tomlinson (Wednesday)
E Buttery (Wednesday)
Glasgow
J Wallace
T Vallance (Rangers)*
G.M Wilson
A Kennedy (3rd Lanark Rifle Volunteers)*
J Phillips (Queen's Park)*
A Hunter (3rd Lanark Rifle Volunteers)
M McNeil (Rangers)*
J.J Lang (3rd Lanark Rifle Volunteers)*
T.J Britten
P Campbell (Rangers)*
H McNeil (Queen's Park)*
The straight throw in rule was used.
Sheffield again played in a passing style that was noted to be unusual for English sides
A corner kick from Clegg knocked the crossbar off but no goal
On 25 minutes H Cursham headed in off the underside of the bar.
20 minutes after the break Richmond sent the leather flying between the timber for Glasgow's equaliser
15 mins from time Richmond's deflected shot put Glasgow 2-1 up. McNeil and Kerr finished Sheffield off in the closing stages.
Sheffield
H.N Moss (Sharrow Rangers)
T Buttery (Exchange)
R Gregory (Hallam)
J Hunter (Heeley)
W.E Clegg (Albion)
A.W Cursham (Thursday Wanderers)
A Woodcock (Kimberworth)
H.A Cursham (Thursday Wanderers)
TH Sorby(Thursday Wanderers)
J Tomlinson (Heeley)
W Mosforth (Albion)*
Glasgow
J Haddow (South Western)
T Vallance (Rangers)*
W.S Somers (3rd Lanark Rifle Volunteers)*
H McIntyre (Rangers)*
J McKenzie (3rd Lanark Rifle Volunteers)
William Dunlop (Rangers)
James Miller (South Western)
W Docherty (Parkgrove)
J.T Richmond (Queen's Park)*
George Kerr (Queen's Park)*
Harry McNeil (Queen's Park)*
* some sources give 4-0, contemporary press reports 4-1.
An important addition to this scheme of things came in the form of the Sheffield v Glasgow series of games, the first of which took place at Bramall Lane on March 14th 1874. The early matches at Sheffield were played under the Sheffield Rules (unification of the FA and Sheffield Rules occurred in 1877) and those in Glasgow under the rules of the Scottish Football Association.
Reading the local press of the day Sheffield clearly had a very vibrant football culture, with numerous matches and with some clubs fielding 3 XIs. The local newspapers were also keen to point out the distinction between the Sheffield team we are looking at here (the representative side drawn from the whole of the Sheffield FA) and Sheffield FC (who played the 1866 match against the FA).
In using newspaper archives in order to try and establish the clubs from which the Sheffield team was drawn I found that some of the players appeared for different club sides from week to week . In some cases I was unable to establish club affiliation.
1874
Yorkshire County Cricket Ground, Bramall Lane
14.03.74
Sheffield
W.H Carr (Owlerton/ Fir Vale) *
J Marsh (Wednesday)
W.H Stacey (Wednesday/Hallam)
J.C Clegg (Wednesday)*
J Houseley (Brightside)
H.E Dixon (Sheffield FC)
J.R.B Owen (Sheffield FC)*
R Gregory (Hallam/ Fir Vale )
J Hunter (Sheffield Heeley)*
T Buttery (Exchange/Wednesday/ Brightside)
W Wilkinson (Fir Vale)
* England internationals.
Glasgow
R Gardner (Clydesdale)*
J Taylor (Queen's Park)*
D Wotherspoon (Clydesdale)*
J.J Thompson (Queen's Park)*
C Campbell (Queen's Park)*
F Anderson(Clydesdale)*
J.B Weir (Queen's Park)*
W Mackinnon (Queen's Park)*
A Mackinnon (Queen's Park)*
H McNeill (Queen's Park)*
J.H Wilson (Clydesdale)
* Scotland internationals.
1875
Sheffield
Glasgow 2 Sheffield 0
Hamilton Crescent
27.02.75
27.02.75
The Sheffield Telegraph correspondent was a little apologetic at the inclusion of Mr Wylie as he was from Shropshire, therefore not a bona fide Sheffield man, although he played for a club affiliated to the Sheffield Association. Also the Sheffield team, being selected by election , was flawed in that 2 goalkeepers were selected and the popular John Marsh excluded. Marsh eventually played in place of the absentee Owen
!0,000 were in attendance.
Sheffield, it is recorded, hit the tape on a few occasions. McLiesh scored glasgow's first after half an hour, his shot taking what sounds like a wicked deflection off Wilkinson- Miller added a second 5 mins from time.
The report includes an account of throngs of spectators lining the route as the Sheffield team returned home.
E Bowling (Exchange/Wednesday)
J.C Clegg (Albion)*
W.E Clegg (Albion/Wednesday)
W.H Carr (Owlerton)
A Wood (Heeley)
J Hunter (Heeley)*
J.G Wylie (Wednesday)
W.H Stacey (Wednesday)
R Gregory (Hallam)
W Wilkinson (Fir Vale)
J Marsh (Wednesday)
Glasgow
R Gardner (Clydesdale)*
J McPherson (Clydesdale)*
J Wotherspoon (Clydesdale)
J Hunter (3rd Lanark Rifle Volunteers)*
W Miller (3rd Lanark Rifle Volunteers)*
D Reid (3rd Lanark Rifle Volunteers)
J.B Connell (Eastern)
A Kennedy (Eastern)*
P Andrews (Eastern)*
W.C Davidson (Western)
D McLiesh (Dumbarton)
1876
Sheffield 0 Glasgow 2
Bramall Lane
19.02.76
19.02.76
Again Sheffield Rules were played .
The press quoted odds of 5-4 on for Glasgow before the game.
The press quoted odds of 5-4 on for Glasgow before the game.
6000 were at Bramall Lane in wet conditions. The Telegraph comments on the lithe and wiry physique of the Scots and on their showing fine concerted play in contrast to the individualistic approach of Sheffield. There is reference to the bar (instead of the tape), and ends were changed at 45 minutes rather than after a goal. Andrews opened the scoring in the 20th minute.
Glasgow's second goal came when goalkeeper Carr tried to make a quick throw out but hit Andrews on the legs, the ball rebounding into the goal.
The usually partisan Sheffield press admitted that their team was outplayed both 'in speed and tactics'.
Sheffield
J.C Clegg (Wednesday)*
W.E Clegg (Wednesday)
J Hunter (Heeley)*
R Gregory (Hallam)
W Mosforth (Albion)*
J Houseley
S Charles (Attercliffe)
G Anthony
J.G Wylie (Wednesday)
W Orton (Wednesday)
Glasgow
A McGeoch (Dumbreck)*
H McNeil (Queen's Park)*
J Hunter (3rd Lanark Rifle Volunteers)*
G.M Wilson (Clydesdale)
A Kennedy (Eastern)*
J Campbell (Rangers)
J Phillips (Queen's Park)*
J.J Lang (Clydesdale)*
M McNeil (Rangers)*
P Andrews (Eastern)*
W Mackinnon (Queen's Park)*
1877*
Glasgow 1 Sheffield 0First Hampden
03.02.77
Sheffield
W.H Carr
J Houseley
R Gregory
W.E Clegg (Wednesday)
J Hunter (Heeley)*
J.C Clegg (Wednesday)*
P Andrews**
G Anthony
A Ramsden
R Martin
W Mosforth (Albion) *
** Scottish international
R Gardner (Clydesdale)*
R Neill (Queen's Park)*
G.M Wilson (Clydesdale)
C Campbell Queen's Park
J Phillips (Queen's Park)*
J.B Weir (Queen's Park)*
J Richmond (Clydesdale)*
W Mackinnon (Queen's Park)*
J Hunter (3rd Lanark Rifle Volunteers)*
H McNeil (Queen's Park)*
T.C Highet (Queen's Park)*
It is recorded that Sheffield played a 2-2-6 fornation. The Scots were described as a wonderfully fast, hardy, astute and wiry team.
P Andrews had moved to Leeds and it was noted that Lang was surprisingly overlooked by Sheffield, having moved there (ostensibly to work in a cutlery factory, in fact he was paid to play for Wednesday).
Wilkinson sustained an injury whilst cutting the bread at breakfast on the day of the game
it was noted that glasgow practiced together weeks preperation.
The goal came in the 5th minute when Carr palmed a corner kick from Hunter into his own goal
*some sources record 2 matches played in Feb 1878- contemporary press reports record only 1.
1878
The seriousness with which Glasgow approached this fixture is revealed in the fact that 60 players from 15 clubs took part in trials before the team was selected.
Sheffield 2 Glasgow 4
Bramall Lane
09.02.78
att: 7000
09.02.78
att: 7000
Sheffield were now criticised by their own press for passing too much! A more direct style was urged.
Glasgow's opener was possibly a phantom goal by one of the McNeil brothers.
After 20 minutes Britten added a second after a long run and a flying kick .
Campbell scored Glasgow's third.
Cursham pulled one back with a header from a corner (off his occiput, the report says).
In the 2nd half Cursham narrowed the deficit further with a slick shot.
M Mcneill completed the scoring, a header from a cross provided by his brother.
Sheffield
T Lawson
J.C Clegg (Wednesday)*
W.E Clegg (Wednesday)
T.H Sorby
A.W Cursham*
W Mosforth (Albion)*
R Gregory (Hallam)
J Houseley (Exchange)
G.B Marples
J Tomlinson (Wednesday)
E Buttery (Wednesday)
Glasgow
J Wallace
T Vallance (Rangers)*
G.M Wilson
A Kennedy (3rd Lanark Rifle Volunteers)*
J Phillips (Queen's Park)*
A Hunter (3rd Lanark Rifle Volunteers)
M McNeil (Rangers)*
J.J Lang (3rd Lanark Rifle Volunteers)*
T.J Britten
P Campbell (Rangers)*
H McNeil (Queen's Park)*
1879
Sheffield played in scarlet- Glasgow, as ever, in blue jerseys with white knickers.
Glasgow 4 Sheffield 1*
First Hampden
15.02.79
att:6000
First Hampden
15.02.79
att:6000
The straight throw in rule was used.
Sheffield again played in a passing style that was noted to be unusual for English sides
A corner kick from Clegg knocked the crossbar off but no goal
On 25 minutes H Cursham headed in off the underside of the bar.
20 minutes after the break Richmond sent the leather flying between the timber for Glasgow's equaliser
15 mins from time Richmond's deflected shot put Glasgow 2-1 up. McNeil and Kerr finished Sheffield off in the closing stages.
Sheffield
H.N Moss (Sharrow Rangers)
T Buttery (Exchange)
R Gregory (Hallam)
J Hunter (Heeley)
W.E Clegg (Albion)
A.W Cursham (Thursday Wanderers)
A Woodcock (Kimberworth)
H.A Cursham (Thursday Wanderers)
TH Sorby(Thursday Wanderers)
J Tomlinson (Heeley)
W Mosforth (Albion)*
Glasgow
J Haddow (South Western)
T Vallance (Rangers)*
W.S Somers (3rd Lanark Rifle Volunteers)*
H McIntyre (Rangers)*
J McKenzie (3rd Lanark Rifle Volunteers)
William Dunlop (Rangers)
James Miller (South Western)
W Docherty (Parkgrove)
J.T Richmond (Queen's Park)*
George Kerr (Queen's Park)*
Harry McNeil (Queen's Park)*
* some sources give 4-0, contemporary press reports 4-1.
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