27.4.13

North London Derby





Arsenal (in their previous guises as Royal Arsenal and Woolwich Arsenal) did not become a north London team until they moved to Highbury in 1913. Prior to this they were based in Plumstead.
The first meeting of the 2 clubs took place in November 1887. A friendly, played at Tottenham Marshes , it was abandoned after 75 minutes due to failing light.

19.11. 87
Tottenham Hotspur
2
1
Royal Arsenal


Arsenal and Tottenham's development took differing courses. Arsenal joined the Football League in 1893 (the first southern club to do so), whilst Tottenham remained in the Southern League from 1896- 1908.
In the meantime the 2 clubs met each other in the United League, The Southern League and the London League:







comp
09.11. 96
Woolwich Arsenal
2
1
Tottenham Hotspur
United Lge
25.02. 97
Tottenham Hotspur
2
2
Woolwich Arsenal
United Lge
25.12. 97
Woolwich Arsenal
2
3
Tottenham Hotspur
United Lge
08.04.98
Tottenham Hotspur
0
0
Woolwich Arsenal
United Lge
11.03. 99
Woolwich Arsenal
2
1
Tottenham Hotspur
United Lge
29.04. 99
Tottenham Hotspur
3
2
Woolwich Arsenal
United Lge
17.04. 00
Tottenham Hotspur
3
2
Woolwich Arsenal
Southern Lge
24.04. 00
Woolwich Arsenal
2
1
Tottenham Hotspur
Southern Lge *
16.09. 01
Woolwich Arsenal
0
2
Tottenham Hotspur
London Lge
04.11. 01
Tottenham Hotspur
5
0
Woolwich Arsenal
London Lge
17.11. 02
Woolwich Arsenal
1
2
Tottenham Hotspur
London Lge
01.12. 02
Tottenham Hotspur
1
0
Woolwich Arsenal
London Lge
01.09. 03
Tottenham Hotspur
0
1
Woolwich Arsenal
London Lge
14.11. 03
Woolwich Arsenal
1
1
Tottenham Hotspur
London Lge


*Abandoned after 75 minutes due to persistent bad language. 

During this period there were also meetings in the London Charity Cup:

23.04.02
Woolwich Arsenal
0
0
Tottenham Hotspur
(SF)
29.04.02
Tottenham Hotspur
2
1
Woolwich Arsenal
(SF r)
10.10.04
Woolwich Arsenal
1
3
Tottenham Hotspur
(SF)
09.04.06
Tottenham Hotspur
0
0
Woolwich Arsenal
(SF r)
28.04.06
Woolwich Arsenal
5
0
Tottenham Hotspur

01.11.09
Tottenham Hotspur
3
0
Woolwich Arsenal
*

*London Professional Footballers Charity Fund



William Buckenham is listed as  Woolwich Arsenal's centre forward in the programme, however Gordon Hoare played in what was his last appearance for the club. He made his debut for Glossop the following Saturday .

Tottenham Hotspur and Woolwich Arsenal first met in the Football League on 04.12.1909.
In a First Division match played at Arsenal's Manor Ground a crowd of 25,000 witnessed a 1-0 win for the home side, Walter Lawrence the scorer.
Here are the line-ups:      
Woolwich Arsenal: Hugh McDonald, Duncan McDonald, Joe Shaw, Andy Ducat,  Percy Sands, Roddy MacEachrane, David Greenaway, Robert Stevens, Gordon Hoare, Walter Lawrence, David Neave.

Tottenham Hotspur: John 'Tiny' Joyce, Fred Wilkes, William Harris, Frank Bentley, Danny Steel         Jabez Darnell,  Jack Curtis, Billy Minter, Ivor Brown,  Bobby Steel, Bert Middlemiss.

              








04.12.09
Woolwich Arsenal
1
0
Tottenham Hotspur


16.04. 10
Tottenham Hotspur
1
1
Woolwich Arsenal


03.12.10
Tottenham Hotspur
3
1
Woolwich Arsenal


08.04.11
Woolwich Arsenal           
2
0
Tottenham Hotspur


25.12.11
Tottenham Hotspur
5
0
Woolwich Arsenal


26.12.11
Woolwich Arsenal
3
1
Tottenham Hotspur


14.12.12
Woolwich Arsenal           
0
3
Tottenham Hotspur


19.04.13
Tottenham Hotspur
1
1
Woolwich Arsenal


15.01.21
Tottenham Hotspur
2
1
Arsenal


22.01.21
Arsenal                                
3
2
Tottenham Hotspur


15.04.22
Tottenham Hotspur
2
0
Arsenal


22.04.22
Arsenal
1
0
Tottenham Hotspur


23.09.22
Tottenham Hotspur
1
2
Arsenal


30.09.22
Arsenal
0
2
Tottenham Hotspur


17.11.23
Arsenal                                
1
1
Tottenham Hotspur


24.11.23
Tottenham Hotspur
3
0
Arsenal


25.10.24
Arsenal
1
0
Tottenham Hotspur


28.02.25
Tottenham Hotspur
2
0
Arsenal


29.08.25
Arsenal
0
1
Tottenham Hotspur


02.01.26
Tottenham Hotspur
1
1
Arsenal


18.12.26
Arsenal
2
4
Tottenham Hotspur


07.05.27
Tottenham Hotspur
0
4
Arsenal


02.01.28
Arsenal
1
1
Tottenham Hotspur


07.04.28
Tottenham Hotspur
2
0
Arsenal


16.09.33
Tottenham Hotspur
1
1
Arsenal                


31.01.34
Arsenal
1
3
Tottenham Hotspur


20.10.34
Arsenal
5
1
Tottenham Hotspur


06.03.35
Tottenham Hotspur
0
6
Arsenal



Venues- Tottenham – White Hart Lane
Arsenal- Manor Ground Plumsted (up until 1921), Highbury thereafter.



Wins
Goals
Arsenal
10
33
Tottenham Hotspur
12
43
Draws
6




(Woolwich) Arsenal
Tottenham Hotspur

Season
League
FA Cup
League
FA Cup

1908-09
Div 1. 6th
R2
Div 2. 2nd P
R3

1909–10
Div 1. 18th
R2
Div 1. 15th
R3

1910–11
Div 1. 10th
R2
Div 1. 15th
R2

1911–12
Div 1. 10th
R1
Div 1. 12th
R1

1912–13
Div 1. 20th R
R2
Div 1. 17th
R2

1913–14
Div 2. 3rd
R1
Div 1. 17th
R2

1914–15
Div 2. 5th
R2
Div 1. 20th R
R2







1919–20
Div 1. 10th
R2
Div 2. 1st P
R4

1920–21
Div 1. 9th
R1
Div 1. 6th
Winners

1921–22
Div 1. 7th
QF
Div 1.2nd
SF

1922–23
Div 1. 11th
R1
Div 1. 12th
R4

1923–24
Div 1. 19th
R2
Div 1. 15th
R1

1924–25
Div 1. 20th
R1
Div 1. 12th
R3

1925–26
Div 1. 2nd
QF
Div 1. 15th
R2

1926–27
Div 1. 11th
Runners Up
Div 1. 13th
R3

1927–28
Div 1. 10th
SF
Div 1. 21st R
R6

1928–29
Div 1. 9th
QF
Div 2. 10th
R3

1929–30
Div 1. 14th
Winners
Div 2. 12th
R3

1930–31
Div 1. 1st
R4
Div 2. 3rd
R4

1931–32
Div 1. 2nd
Runners Up
Div 2. 8th
R3

1932–33
Div 1. 1st
R3
Div 2. 2nd P
R4

1933–34
Div 1. 1st
QF
Div 1. 3rd
R5

1934–35
Div 1. 1st
QF
Div 1. 22nd R
R5

1935–36
Div 1. 6th
Winners
Div 2. 5th
QF

1936–37
Div 1. 3rd
QF
Div 2. 10th
QF




During their time in the Football League Arsenal and Tottenham continued to play each other in other competitions and charity events:


29.04.12
Woolwich Arsenal
3
0
Tottenham Hotspur
Daily Telegraph Titanic Fund (Park Royal)
10.11.13
Tottenham Hotspur
2
1
Woolwich Arsenal
London FA Charity Cup SF (Stamford Bridge)
22.08.14
Tottenham Hotspur
1
5
The Arsenal
War Relief Fund

04.09.15
The Arsenal
2
0
Tottenham Hotspur
London Combination
13.11.15
Tottenham Hotspur
3
3

The Arsenal
04.03.16
Tottenham Hotspur
3
0
The Arsenal
08.04.16
Tottenham Hotspur
3
2
The Arsenal
09.09.16
The Arsenal
1
1
Tottenham Hotspur
02.12.16
Tottenham Hotspur
(Highbury)
4
1
The Arsenal
06.04.17
Tottenham Hotspur (Homerton)
0
0
The Arsenal
09.04.17
The Arsenal
2
3
Tottenham Hotspur
22.09.17
Tottenham Hotspur
(Highbury)
1
2
The Arsenal
17.11.17
The Arsenal
(Homerton)
0
1
Tottenham Hotspur
12.01.18
Tottenham Hotspur
(Highbury)
4
1
The Arsenal
09.03.18
The Arsenal
4
1
Tottenham Hotspur
12.10.18
The Arsenal
3
0
Tottenham Hotspur
07.12.18
Tottenham Hotspur
(Highbury)
1
0
The Arsenal
01.02.19
The Arsenal
2
3
Tottenham Hotspur
29.03.19
Tottenham Hotspur
(Highbury)
0
1
The Arsenal
29.09.19
Arsenal
0
1
Tottenham Hotspur
London Professional Footballers Charity Fund

25.10.20
Tottenham Hotspur
2
0
Arsenal
01.11.20
Tottenham Hotspur
2
1
Arsenal
London Charity Cup

14.11.21
Arsenal
0
0
Tottenham Hotspur
London Charity Cup SF (Stamford Bridge)
21.11. 21
Arsenal
2
1
Tottenham Hotspur
London Charity Cup (r) (Homerton)
23.10. 22
Tottenham Hotspur
2
3
Arsenal
London Charity Cup

04.05. 31
Arsenal
2
1
Tottenham Hotspur
London FA Charity Cup Final (Stamford Bridge)


26.4.13

Soccer—The Game of the Working Class (2)

Spartak play an exhibition match in Red Square, 1936

A further extract from Serious Fun: A History of Spectator Sports in the USSR by Robert Edelman (1993)- reproduced without permission.

The Problem of Professionalism Before the League's Formation

The creation of the league that spring would force Soviet players and coaches to organize their efforts in a more consistent and permanent manner. They were now to devote the bulk of their energies to sports, a change that meant less time for work and raised the issue of professionalism. While the extent of the league's demands on players' time was indeed new, many of the practices and customs of professional sports had been common in Soviet soccer well before 1936. As early as the 1920s, Soviet athletes were being paid, and this fact was generally known among the sporting public.
Competition for the best players had been keen throughout the NEP period. Under-the-table payments, no-show jobs, and better housing were just a few of the standard inducements employed by the leading clubs, and these matters were widely discussed in the press. While accounts of professionalism were nearly always critical, they were such a journalistic staple that there can be no doubt that the practices they condemned were widespread. The semi capitalist world of the NEP had its shady operators who found in soccer a
ripe object for fun and profit. As Moshe Lewin has said, "NEP had its share of venality, crooked business deals, and ways to spend the profits, including night clubs, cafés chansants, gambling dens, and houses of prostitution."
Inevitably, as in the West, less-than-upright figures were drawn to so significant an object of public attention as soccer. While some of this activity slacked off during the First Five-Year Plan, it quickly resumed, even before the creation of the soccer league.
In any competitive situation, amateur or professional, teams seek to attract the best possible players within, and often outside of, the rules agreed upon by the competitors. Even if early Soviet soccer had been amateur, some player movement would have occurred, but in a fully amateur situation, one could expect most players to stay with their original clubs. Movement from group to group, not to mention city to city, signified that players put their individual welfare above that of the collective. This practice was seen by
many critics as a sign of professionalism, a negative development. However, in the conditions of the NEP, gate receipts were still an important element of a team's survival. As everywhere else, excellence on the field meant success at the box office. Semicapitalism gave rise to semiprofessionalism.
The demand for good players appeared very quickly, and the ablest soon found their services in demand. They could shop themselves to the highest bidders. As early as 1926, Krasnyi sport lamented that this process had been going on for some time, and it stressed that the methods of attracting good players were primarily financial:

These "well-known" players move about according to their own taste. Little by little, with the approach of the close of the transfer period, a small but substantial number of players appears, ready to sell themselves to whomever they want to, whenever they want. [They ask] only the highest price. . . .It is especially shameful that organizations that are not what they seem to be take part (of course not openly) in the financing of these "commerical" operations. These organizations are interested in setting up strong teams for their groups in
the name of "hurrah patriotism" and with the aim of collecting thousands in gate receipts.
Two years later, the weekly Fizkultura i sport lamented this same process and remarked that many players had played for a different team every year. The magazine also ran a large editorial cartoon that satirized the annual movement of players from team to team.
At the heart of this process was the phenomenon that became known as chempionstvo. The members of many sports societies began to object that their organizations were devoting too much attention to attracting and supporting elite athletes. As a result, the physical education of the working masses was being neglected. This criticism was not directed simply at those athletes who, by virtue of their talents, happened to be successful: "The dispute is not simply about 'champions' but about those 'champions' who, having achieved something, bargain for themselves, seeking a comfortable place from the institution for whom they will appear. . . . It is necessary to struggle decisively against those organizations engaged in the 'buying and
selling' of champions. . . ."
The abandonment of the New Economic Policy did little to stem this phenomenon. The market for stars may have been less overtly financial with the coming of the first Five-Year Plans, but by the mid-'thirties, top athletes still found many suitors for their services. In 1933, the sports press was again complaining about this practice, and two years later, Krasnyi sport detailed an elaborate ring of "sports businessmen" who traded in players. Both the businessmen and the players received such sizable sums as three thousand rubles for these "transfers." By the end of 1935, the practice had become so widespread that the Central Committee of the Komsomol and the All Union Council of Physical Culture (VSFK) published a resolution decrying player transfers.
Rewards of this sort were not entirely unreasonable, since big-time soccer was in the process of becoming a full-time occupation. Nikolai Starostin has recalled that, in the early 'thirties, teams practiced three times a week and played games on Sunday. Players on city selects and national teams would be taken from their work for long periods of time, and the top teams would spend as much as a month preparing for the season in the south.
Mikhail Iakushin recounts that he enrolled in an engineering institute in 1935 but soon found that soccer demanded so much time that he had to abandon his studies.

25.4.13

Barcelona- honours











1912 Victory parade 


Copa Macaya 1 win (3 editions)

1901-02

Copa Barcelona 1 win (1 edition)

1902-03

Campionat de Catalunya 22 wins (38 editions)*

1904-05, 1908-09, 1909-10, 1910-11, 1912-13, 1913-14, 1915-16, 1918-19, 1919-20, 1920-21, 1921-22, 1923-24, 1924-25, 1925-26, 1926-27, 1927-28, 1928-29, 1929-30, 1930-31, 1931-32, 1933-34, 1935-36


Copa del Rey 8 wins (36 editions)*
1909–101911–121912–131919–201921–221924–251925–261927–28

Pyrenees Cup 4 wins (5 editions)

19101911,  1912, 1913

La Liga / Primera División 1 win (8 editions)*

1929 



1910 with Pyrenees Cup

1929 

* during our period - that is up until the summer of 1937