Showing posts with label Robert Smith. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Robert Smith. Show all posts

21.4.15

Association Football in The Wild West



In the 1880s the territory of Wyoming was a rough and ready place, small rudimentary settlements based on mineral mining and cattle driving. The sparsely populated  area was a refuge for outlaws such as The Hole-in-the-Wall Gang . 
As recently as 1876 there had been war  between 'settlers' and the indigenous people. The territory was not granted state status until 1890.
And yet against this frontier backdrop of riders and gunslingers Association football was being played.
I came across this fact in Andy Mitchell's First Elevens



Robert Smith, the former Scottish international had settled in Wyoming, where he established a business with fellow Queen's Park member William Klingner. Smith was a general trader, and was later involved in the newspaper business and politics. 
On July 4th 1883 Smith, who was then 35, arranged a match between  Green River and Rock Springs, Smith captained Green River. Rock Springs won 4-0. This appears to have been a one off, and football didn't really catch on in Wyoming. 

Smith was a founder member of Queen's Park and the first club captain.
He played in the 2nd,3rd and 4th  'Alcock Internationals' (the rarity of an actual Scotsman in the Scots XI). He represented Scotland in the 1st and 2nd official internationals whilst playing for South Norwood. Smith also played in the FA Cup for Queen's Park and was an FA committee member. 
He went to the USA in 1873. 



13.11.14

Hamilton Crescent


Cricket was being played in Hamilton Crescent before the West of Scotland Cricket Club was founded in 1862.
Hamilton Crescent's place in sporting history was assured when it was chosen by Queen's Park to host what is considered to be the first ever international Association football match.
As we have seen , Charles Alcock had , in his enthusiasm to spread the association game, instituted 'international' matches in 1870. The 'Scottish' teams involved were not truly representative, the players usually having only tenuous connections with Scotland. Alcock didn't want this to be the case, however. He wanted genuine Scottish representation, as we can see from the following letter, which appeared in  The Glasgow Herald in November 1870:

ENGLAND versus SCOTLAND
Sir,—Will you allow me a few lines in your paper to notify to Scottish players that a match under the above title will take place in London on Saturday, 19th inst, according to the rules of the Football Association? It is the object of the committee to select the best elevens at their disposal in the two countries, and I cannot but think that the appearance of some of the more prominent celebrities of football on the northern side of the Tweed would do much to disseminate a healthy feeling of good fellowship among the contestants, and tend to promote to a still greater extent the extension of the game. In Scotland, once essentially the land of football, there should still be a spark left of the old fire, and I confidently appeal to Scotsmen to aid to their utmost the efforts of the committee to confer success on what London fondly hopes to found, an annual trial of skill between the champions of England and Scotland. Messrs. A. F. Kinnaird, 2 Pall Mall East, London, and J. Kirkpatrick, Admiralty, Somerset House, London, will be glad to receive the names of any Scottish player who will take part against England in the match in question.—I am, etc.,
Charles W. Alcock, Hon. Secretary of Football Association.
West Dulwich, Surrey, 1st November, 1870.

Queen's Park responded to the letter by asking if one of their members could play, They nominated Robert Smith (conveniently he had recently moved to London and was playing for South Norwood). Smith consequently played in the 2nd and 3rd 'Alcock Internationals'.

Queen's Park wrote to Alcock in the summer of 1872. What was happening regarding international matches? would the Football Association be disposed to send a team to play Scotland in Scotland? In effect the  Queen's Park club assumed responsibility for responding to Charles Alcock's challenge to Scottish footballers. There was no Scottish Football Association at the time. Queen's Park were in effect the governing body in Scottish football, as well as dominating the game on the pitch they were also arbiters and guardians of the rules. One thing that they didn't have, however, was a ground of their own. They still played in public parks.



Queen's Park were devilishly good at organizing things. They set up subcommittees to handle every aspect of preparing for the visit of the English.  The West of Scotland Cricket Club were approached regarding the use of Hamilton Crescent. Queen's Park anticipated the match being a lucrative event. The following terms were agreed:
West of Scotland Cricket Club to receive £10* for staging the match and and a further sum of £10 should the receipts exceed  £50. 
This was a bold move by Queen's Park, who only had £7 in their account and had been offered the Burnbank Rugby ground free of charge.
It paid off, though, as the takings reached £102 19s. 6d. Admission was 1 shilling and the attendance topped 4,000. 
The match cost a total of  £69 11s. 6d to stage, leaving Queen's Park a balance of £33 8s which they used to fund their journey to London for the following season's international.
One thing about this first international troubles me- if, according to  F.I.F.A. regulations, a match must be organised according to the prescribed rules by two National Football Associations, then should this game be considered a full international? There was no Scottish FA. Queen's Park organised the match, selected the team and provided all the players (who incidentally played in Queen's Park's colours). 
Hamilton Cresecent had served it's purpose well, though. Queen's Park moved into the first Hampden Park in 1873, but the internationals of 1874 and 1876 were both played in Hamilton Crescent, as were the first 2 matches of the 1877 Scottish Cup Final between Glasgow Rangers and Vale of Leven. (It took 2 replays to settle the tie- the 2 matches at Hamilton Crescent were drawn, 1-1). 

* 1872 Pre decimal money: 1 pound (£) = 20 shillings (s). 1 shilling = 12 pence (d). A general labourer earned about £1 per week. 



5.11.13

The Alcock Internationals- game 3.


The third meeting of the two selections resulted in a 1-1 draw. 

The Oval  25.02.71
‘England’
‘Scotland’
Morten Betts
West Kent
James  Kirkpatrick [c]
Civil Service
Scorer of the first ever Cup Final goal

Charles  Stephenson
Westminster School
Robert Smith
Queen’s Park


Edgar Lubbock

West Kent
William Gladstone
Old Etonians
Charles Alcock [c],
Harrow Pilgrims
Quentin Hogg

Wanderers

Alfred J. Baker

Wanderers
Arthur Kinnaird
Wanderers
William Butler
Civil Service
F. McClean
Oxford University

McClean was a pseudonym - he later appeared for England in the first official international as Frederick Chappell. He changed his name legally in 1873 and won FA Cups as Frederick Brunning Maddison (Oxford University 1874, Wanderers 1876)

John  Cockerell
Brixton
John  Inglis
Charterhouse


William P. Crake
Barnes
William Lindsay
Old Wykehamists


Thomas  Hooman
Wanderers
Arnold  Smith
Oxford University


Robert W. Vidal
Westminster School
Charles Nepean
Oxford University
Robert Walker
Clapham Rovers
Gilbert Primrose
Civil Service




1.10.13

The Alcock Internationals- game 2.

Eight months after the first game Alcock's England XI met Kinnaird's Scotland for a rematch at The Oval. 
England won 1-0 thanks to a goal by Walker following a run by Alcock. Notice that at this point in the game's development that the teams changed ends after a goal had been scored. 
Note that one could  apply by post to be considered for selection.

Game 2:
19.11.70- The Oval.
‘England’  1-0   ‘Scotland’    
‘England’
‘Scotland’
Charles Alcock (c)
Harrow  Pilgrims
James  Kirkpatrick [c]
Civil Service FC


Alfred J. Baker
Wanderers
Arthur Kinnaird
Wanderers


Thomas Carter
Eton College
Charles  Nepean
Oxford University
Eton schoolboy
Former Charterhouse pupil who became a vicar. 1874 FA Cup Winner with Oxford University.

John  Cockerel
Brixton
Galfrid  Congreve
No club


William P. Crake
Harrow School
Robert  Crawford
Harrow Chequers



Thomas Hooman 
Wanderers
William Baillie 
Hamilton
Civil Service FC
FA Cup winner with Wanderers (1872)



Edgar Lubbock
West Kent
Gilbert  Kennedy
Wanderers




Walter Paton                        Harrow School
17 year old Paton was still at Harrow School

William Lindsay        Old Wykehamists
Henry Preston
Eton College

Quentin Hogg                        Wanderers
 A Christian philanthropist

Robert W. Vidal
Westminster School
Henry  Primrose
  Civil Service

Sir Henry William Primrose K.C.B., C.S.I., I.S.O., P.C was later private secretary to the Prime Minister.

Robert  Walker
Clapham Rovers
Robert  Smith
Queen’s Park
Lt. Col. Robert Sandilands Frowd Walker, C.M.G. Introduced football to Malaya.
Captain and founder member of Queen's Park, 2 official internationals for Scotland.