FA Cup Winner's Parades

Athletic News 04.04.83

Manchester United, 1909

Blackburn Rovers, 1928

As the first non-metropolitan team to triumph in the FA Cup it is unsurprising that Blackburn Olympic were also the first to be feted on their return 'home'.

The tradition endures, although the brake pulled by a team of 4 greys is sadly no longer a feature. 

Geary equalises for Everton

29.11.90
Plenty of animation behind the goal at Anfield. Not much sign of life in the Blackburn defence though.
Fred Geary played 100 games for Everton in 6 seasons, scoring 86 goals. This was his 13th goal of the season 1890-91, which he ended with 20.

Blackburn Rovers

There's always one isn't there? In this case it appears to be Arthur Cowell, on the extreme right. I've checked other Rovers pictures from  the era and there doesn't appear to have been a tradition for one of the jerseys to have been in contrast to the others, so maybe Cowell just has his top on back to front?

The players pictured are: Miles Chadwick, Arnie Whittaker, Bob Crompton, Sammy McClure, Adam Bowman, Willie McIver, Tinker Davies, Fred Pentland, Sam Wolstenholme, Billy Bradshaw & Arthur Cowell.

I first saw this picture on https://twitter.com/footballmemorys

Ned Doig

Ned Doig joined Blackburn from Arbroath in 1889. His only appearance for Rovers was a 9-1 win over Notts County. 
Doig made his debut for Sunderland in September 1890 and went on to make 454 first team competitive appearances for Sunderland, winning 4 First Division Championships.
He joined Liverpool (in Division 2) in 1904 and made 53 appearances for the Reds spread over 4 seasons. 
Ned Doig represented Scotland 5 times over a 16 year period, finishing on the winning side 4 times. 
Doig was originally an outfield player who took to goalkeeping with Arbroath Reserves as a 17 year old. Concious of his hair loss, Doig was never seen without his cap, which he would fasten under his chin with a piece of string. 
On Easter Saturday 1900 Doig was involved in a curious incident-  Manchester City goalkeeper Charlie Williams appeared to become the first goalkeeper to score from open play in the Football League, his long clearance eluding Doig. Some contemporary reports (there was no dubious goals panel!) say that Doig made the decisive touch, and credit him with an own goal. ENFA credits City inside left Fred Williams with the goal. Sunderland won 3-1.

 Manchester Courier and Lancashire General 16.04.00

Spot The Ball

Spot the Ball competitions used to be very popular, appearing on the back pages of most newspapers, with large cash prizes on offer.  To mark FA Cup Final day here are 4 Cup Final Spot the Balls. Click on the date to reveal the solution.

1882

1904

1909 

1925

The physique of the operative classes...

Blackburn Rovers 1891: Back: Tom Brandon, Rowland Pennington, John Barton, Jack Southworth, George Dewar, Jimmy Forrest; Front:Joe Lofthouse, Nat Walton, John Forbes, Coombe Hall, Billy Townley.

In the 1870s and early 1880s bulk and muscle had remained a considerable factor when appraising the qualities of football XIs. Accounts of the first international draw attention to the size advantage that England enjoyed, and the early 'inter class' matches such as Darwen v Old Etonians also drew attention to the physical superiority of the more privileged classes. 

Until the introduction of professionalism (legally 1885 but in real terms c. 1879) working class players would have been seen as being at a disadvantage due to both long term ( the effects of poor diet and sanitation) and more immediate (50 hour working weeks) factors.

The advent of professionalism led to sinecure jobs and the evolution of training and physical preparation., 

The following , taken from Hansard, are the words of  William Coddington MP , debating the 

Factories and  Workshops Bill (18.06.91). Mr Coddington was Member of Parliament for Blackburn from 1880-1906. 

Before the Committee, in support of the statement that the physique of the operative classes was not to be despised, I quoted the fact that a celebrated Lancashire Football Club, the Blackburn Rovers, had won the Association Cup five times, and another Blackburn Club had won it once. I understand that the Member for Poplar, in the early part of this Debate, referred to what I had said on that point, and I believe he quoted from this very paper certain figures respecting the players. I have reason to know that those figures are inaccurate. To show that I was right in my assertion I may say that the Rovers team in 1884 contained three operatives and four sons of operatives; in 1885 it contained two operatives and four sons of operatives; in 1886 two operatives and one son of an operative; in 1890 two operatives and one son of an operative. It is quite clear that the number of operatives in that celebrated team are not so many now as they were several years ago, but that is due to the fact that football has become much more a professional game than it was a few years ago. It is a great misfortune for the town in which I live and for all the other towns which try to emulate each other in this noble game. A very fair proportion of the players in the old times, however, were operatives. The Blackburn Olympic team when it won the Association Cup in 1883 contained five operatives and one son of an operative. These facts prove, at all events, that the physique of the operative classes is not so bad as represented by some people.

Interestingly, even when professionalism had been legal for 6 years, here is how the Blackburn players of 1891 described themselves in that year's census:

Player	Occupation
Rowland Pennington	Professional footballer
Tom Brandon	Joiner
John Barton	Turner and fitter
Jack Southworth	Musician
Geordie Dewar	Publican
Jimmy Forrest	Innkeeper
Joe Lofthouse	Licensed Victualler
Nat Walton	Coachbuilder
John Forbes	Hosier
Coombe Hall	Professional footballer
Billy Townley	Assistant schoolmaster

Clash of Colours, 1882

When we think of the professional football clubs of the industrialized north that came to dominate the game in the 1880s, it is easy to consider them as being an entirely different entity from the southern clubs of the amateur gentlemen. There was, however, a thread that linked many of the clubs of Lancashire to the public schools from which Association football had developed in the 1860s.
Turton, probably the first Lancashire side, were founded by Old Harrovians (of which more later). The case we will look at here is that of the team that really put the cat among the pigeons by reaching the FA Cup Final in 1882, Blackburn Rovers.

1878:Notice in the picture above how there is inconsistency in the jerseys.

The 'quartered ' shirts and the Maltese Cross motif that Rovers wore in the early days pointed to their (surprising) public school origins. Founder  Arthur Constantine was an Old Salopian (Shewsbury). 

Shrewsbury School, 1912

According to Charles Francis in The History of Blackburn Rovers (1925) several of the 17 present at the  St Leger Hotel On 5th November 1875 were young fellows who had just finished their education at public schools. 
The stipulation in setting out the club livery was that a Maltese cross be worn on the left breast This motif was worn by both the Shrewsbury and Malvern school teams.

Malvern College

Malvern College  provided Rovers with players such as the Greenwood brothers (Thomas, Harry and Doctor) and Fred Hargreaves.

Blackburn Rovers' strip remains one of the most readily recognisable in the world of football, and was much imitated. However, when their first chance of glory came as they reached the FA Cup Final in 1882 they were denied the opportunity of wearing their famous strip.The 11th FA Cup Final was the first to necessitate a change of colours.
John Lewis recalls a letter from Alcock- there is no evidence that a coin was tossed or any lots were drawn in order to decide who changed kit- Rovers were instructed, by letter. Lewis was convinced that this was a bad omen. Rovers also requested assistance with their travelling expenses; the FA declined.

On the day Rovers wore narrow black and white  hoops in the mode of Queen's Park. Old Etonians wore harlequin shirts of light blue and white (a departure from their previous plain light blue). 

A humiliation that staggered the football world: Swansea Town v Blackburn Rovers- 1915

On Saturday Swansea City travel to Blackburn Rovers in the 4th round of The FA Cup.
When the 2 met in January 1915 for a first round FA Cup tie, the outcome was one of the biggest upsets in the history of British football. 
Blackburn Rovers were a big, big club. Established 40 years previously they were founding members of The Football League. The previous season Rovers had won the Championship (their 2nd title).  They had won the FA Cup 5 times. At the time of this match (09.01.15) they were 5th in Division 1.
Their line up featured 4 England internationals ( Crompton, Bradshaw, Latheron and Hodkinson) and 1 Scottish international ( Aitkenhead).
Crompton had played for England a remarkable 41 times ( a record which stood for 38 years), captaining on 21 occasions. 
Rovers offered Swansea a large sum to switch the match to Ewood Park but the offer was declined and 16,000 people were at the Vetch to see the League champions. 
Swansea Town were in the second division of the Southern League. They had only come into existence in 1912. Their line up that day was light on stars. Club captain Thomas Hewitt had played for Wales 8 times (1911-14). Captain for cup matches that season was Joe Bulcock The man who became a hero that day was a 16 year old Rugby player. Benny Benyon was only playing 'soccer' because Rugby was suspended during the war. 
Blackburn attacked relentlessly from the outset, but in the 20th minute Swansea broke out of defence in a move, started and finished by Beynon, that covered the length of the pitch and gave the Swans an unlikely lead. 
At half time Swansea were reduced to 10 men when Lock was injured. 
Rovers bombarded the Swans goal in the 2nd half. They were awarded a penalty but remarkably Billy Bradshaw, who had scored with 36 consecutive spot kicks, shot wide. Harry Read went off injured and Swansea had to hold out for the last quarter of an hour with just 9 men. 
It was, according to  contemporary newspaper reports: A humiliation that staggered the football world.
As the photograph shows, Swansea Town were unique in having a strip in which jersey and knickers were of the same colour.
Benny Beynon returned to Rugby after the war and played for Wales, but in a ruling that highlights the stupidity of the way in which that game was administered, he was banned for professionalism on account of his Association football exploits. He went to Oldham as a Northern Union player.
Joe Bulcock (Town) and Eddie Latheron (Rovers) were both killed in the war.

Swansea Town		Blackburn Rovers
Hurst	GK	Alf Robinson
Tom Hewitt	RB	Bob Crompton
Joe Bulcock	LB	Tommy Suttie
John Duffy	RH	Bert Walmsley
Lock	CH	Percy Smith
Anderson	LH	Billy Bradshaw
Harry Read	OR	Alex McGhie
Brown	IR	Wattie Aitkenhead
Benny Beynon	CF	Johnny Orr
Gilboy	IL	Eddie Latherton
Amos Lloyd	OL	Joe Hodkinson

Souvenir

A curious memento. And for tissue paper to survive 100 years...
Described as follows in an auction catalogue:
1910 F.A. Cup third round commemorative tissue Imprinted 'Souvenir of the English Cup third round Played at St James Park Newcastle Saturday Feb. 19th 1910', with team pictures and annotation of players names underneath. Floral flag design to outer edges. Printed by Mrs S.Burgess of Bishopsgate, London.

If we look at the teams that played that day we will see that there was plenty of quality on show.  Blackburn Rovers were 3rd in Division 1 and Newcastle United 6th. 

Newcastle United		Blackburn Rovers
Jimmy Lawrence	G	Jimmy Ashcroft
Billy McCracken	RB	Bob Crompton
Tony Whitson	LB	Arthur Cowell
Colin Veitch	RH	Albert Walmsley
Wilf Low	CH	George Chapman
Peter McWilliam	LH	Billy Bradshaw
Jock Rutherford	OR	Billy Garbutt
Jimmy Howie	IR	Eddie Latheron
Albert Shepherd	CF	Ellis Crompton
Sandy Higgins	IL	Wattie Aitkenhead
George Wilson	OL	Walter Anthony

The 54,000 crowd brought in receipts in excess of £2000 (described in the contemporary press as 'an enormous sum').
Higgins opened the scoring in the first minute ( a quick short drive). Rutherford added a second in the 25th minute but Rovers immediately pulled one back through Anthony. Howie completed the scoring in the second half.

Fergie Suter

Following James Reddie Lang's spell with The Wednesday in 1876 the next examples of Scottish players moving to England in order to play football for money are Fergus Suter and James Love, who joined Darwen in 1878.
Glaswegian full-back Suter had played for Partick and Glasgow Rangers. 
Over the New Year holiday in 1878 Partick visited Lancashire and played both Darwen (losing 3-2) and Blackburn Rovers (losing 2-1).
Suter was a stonemason, although it was noted that he didn't continue his trade when he was living in Lancashire. Darwen alays denied he was a professional, but Suter later commented  I would interview the treasurer as occasion arose.
Suter's play drew positive comments in the press- he was an active proponent of combination play, linking with his half backs and forwards and launching attacks himself rather than just seeing his role as being to clear his lines with long kicks. The way in which he lofted free kicks for the centre forward to head also seems to have been an innovation. Suter featured in Darwen's legendary cup run of 1879, but in 1880 he shocked the town by transferring to their neighbours and rivals Blackburn Rovers.

The acrimony wasn't helped when Suter and Darwen's Thomas  Marshall grappled in a cup tie  in November 1880 at Alexandra Meadows. The match was abandoned, the return match was cancelled, and the two sides declined to meet other than in cup ties in the future. 
The local press featured some interesting correspondence in the wake of this match:

 Here is another interesting letter. Transfer gossip and speculation are nothing new:

Whilst with Rovers Suter  appeared in four FA Cup Finals, picking up 3 winner's medals. He was still around when the Football League came into being, but only played in one League match, appearing in goal against West Bromwich Albion on 22nd December 1888.

Newton Heath's League Debut

When the Football League was founded in 1888 it is remarkable that, despite the ascendancy of Lancashire football,  there was no side from Manchester itself in a suitably advanced state of development to be considered for inclusion in the venture. Newton Heath played in the Combination (1888–89) and the Alliance (3 seasons from 1889)  before being elected to Division 1 of the Football League for the 1892-93 season. 
The club became a Limited Company (shares £1) in June 1892. Alf Albut became the first full time club secretary and a number of new signings were secured (including 8 Scotsmen). 
The Heathens first league fixture was away to Blackburn Rovers at Ewood Park on September 3rd 1892. Rather inauspiciously the kick off was delayed until 4pm because Newton Heath arrived late.  
Within 10 minutes of the kick off they were 2 goals down. Southworth shot Rovers into the lead, the second goal, credited to Hall , came from a scrimmage. Rovers went 3 up before Donaldson pulled one back (histories credit Coupar with Newton Heath's first league goal, but contemporary newspaper reports identify Donaldson as the scorer). Coupar then added another from a scrimmage before half time. 

The Manchester Courier and Lancashire General Advertiser reported a closely contested match: for three fourths of the game there was nothing to chose between the two teams- backwards and forwards the tussle went- both goals being visited in alternation.

 Chippendale put Rovers 4-2 up before the prolific Farman brought the Heathens back to within 1 goal.  Incidentally, whereas green and gold are associated with Newton Heath, largely due to the

1992/93 revival kit , the first team colours in the 1892-93 season were red and white 'halves' (more correctly 'quarters').

Warner

Goal keeper: Jimmy Warner

27 year old Warner, born in Lozells in Birmingham, had spent the first 4 seasons of league football as Aston Villa’s keeper. The previous April he had felt the wrath of Villa supporters after the FA Cup final defeat to neighbours West Bromwich Albion. The windows of his pub (Old College Inn, Spring Hill) had been smashed by angry fans. In 1892 Warner was also involved in a scandal regarding an elopement with a woman (he was married at the time).

He had been an FA Cup winner with Villa in 1887.

His Newton Heath career was virtually ended by his failure to turn up for an away match at Stoke in January 1893.

 (1.77m 79.3 kg)

Clements

Right back: John Clements

Clements, 24 , was born in Nottinghamshire and had played 2 seasons of league football for Notts County.

Brown 

Left back- James Brown

I don’t know much about Brown. He only ever made 7 League Appearances and was never on the winning side. 

Perrins

Right half- George Perrins

20 year old George Perrins was from Birmingham. Signed from Birmingham St. George's He was to spend 4 seasons with Newton Heath. 

Stewart

Centre half: Willie Stewart

22 year old Stewart was Scottish- a rangy 1.77m. He had played for Newton Heath in the Alliance, mainly as an inside forward.

Erentz

Left half: Fred Erentz

Another Scot, 22 yr old Erentz spent 10 seasons with Newton Heath, making over 300 appearances. His last match was Newton Heath's last game before they became Manchester United.  Half Danish , he was signed from Our Boys (Dundee).

 Farman

Outside right: Alf Farman

Farman was signed from Bolton Wanderers in 1889. A native of Birmingham he had been on the books of both Excelsior and Aston Villa.  He scored 53 goals in 121 appearances for Newton Heath.

Coupar

Inside Right- Jimmy Coupar

Another Scottish import from Our Boys (Dundee).  Coupar returned to Scotland in Jult 1893, joining St Johnstone.

Donaldson 

Centre Forward- Bobby Donaldson

Donaldson joined Newton Heath from Blackburn Rovers. He was another Dundee man. He finished the season as top scorer for the club with 16 goals. 

Carson

Inside left- Adam Carson

A Scotsman signed from Glasgow Thistle in June 1892, Carson was sold to Ardwick in the summer of 1893 having made 13 appearances for the Heathens. 

Mathieson

Outside left-William Mathieson

A native of Glasgow signed from Clydesdale in the summer of 1892, Mathieson was at Newton Heath until 1895. 

Newton Heath  finished the season in 16th place, and retained Div 1. status by beating Small Heath in a 'test match'.

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5 Time FA Cup Winners

In the first 20 seasons of FA Cup football 2 clubs shared 10 victories. 

These 2 clubs encapsulate the development of the game at this stage in its history.

The Wanderers were gentlemen amateurs, metropolitan, products of the public schools.

Blackburn Rovers represented the rise of Lancastrian professionalism, featuring Scotch Professors and homegrown working class talent.
Whereas the Cup had begun as a rather narrow interest concerning a handful of clubs whose members came from an exclusive social background, by the time Rovers had secured their 5th win The Association game had  became the focus of mass interest. Attendances were in excess of 20,000 and extensive newspaper coverage, including specialised publications conveyed the excitement to millions.

Wanderers

16.03.72	Wanderers	1	0	Royal Engineers
	The Oval  c 2,000
	A H Chequer (Betts)
29.03.73	Wanderers	2	0	Oxford University
	Lillie Bridge c 3,000
	Kinnaird, Wollaston
The Challenge Cup was played as such for the only time in its history- Wanderers as holders were given a bye to the final whilst the other clubs played off for the right to face them. A morning kick off in Chelsea to avoid a clash with the Boat Race.
11.03.76	Wanderers	1	1	Old Etonians
	The Oval  3,500
	Edwards		Bonsor
18.03.76	Wanderers	3	0	Old Etonians
(replay)	The Oval  3,500
	Wollaston, Hughes (2)
24.03.77	Wanderers	2	1	Oxford University
	The Oval  3,000
	Lindsay, Kenrick		Kinnaird (og)
The only example I know of of a result being changed retrospectively- or was it all a myth? Tradition has it that Kinnaird used his influence to have his own goal scratched from the record- giving us the anomaly of a 2-0 win in extra time with the score at 90 mins having being 1-0!
23.03.78	Wanderers	3	1	Royal Engineers
	The Oval  4,500
	Kenrick (2), Kinnaird		Morris

Wanderers forfeited the right, set out in Alcock's original proposals for the Cup, to keep the trophy having won it three times in a row.

season	P	W	D	BYE	W/O	F	A
1871-72	4	2	2	1	2	4	1
1872-73	1	1		5		2	0
1875–76	6	5	1			16	2
1876–77	4	4		1	1	12	1
1877–78	6	5	1	1		29	4

1872	1873	1876	1877	1878
Reginald Courtenay Welch*	Reginald Courtenay Welch*	W. D. O. Greig	Arthur Kinnaird**	James Kirkpatrick
Edgar Lubbock	Leonard Howell*	Alfred Stratford*	Alfred Stratford*	Alfred Stratford*
Albert Thompson	Edward Bowen	William Lindsay*	William Lindsay*	William Lindsay*
C. W. Alcock*	Robert Kingsford*	Frederick Maddison	Frederick Green*	Frederick Green*
Edward Bowen	Charles Thompson	Francis Birley*	Francis Birley*	Arthur Kinnaird**
Alexander Bonsor*	Alexander Bonsor*	Francis Heron*	Henry Wace *	Henry Wace *
Morton Betts x	Capt. William Kenyon-Slaney*	Hubert Heron*	Hubert Heron*	Hubert Heron*
William Crake	Julian Sturgis	John Hawley Edwards*/	Charles Denton	Charles Denton
Thomas Hooman	Arthur Kinnaird**	Jarvis Kenrick	Jarvis Kenrick	Jarvis Kenrick
Robert Vidalx	Rev. Henry Holmes Stewart	Thomas Hughes	Thomas Hughes	John Wylie*
Charles Wollaston*	Charles Wollaston*	Charles Wollaston*	Charles Wollaston*	Charles Wollaston*

There were no changes in the line up for the replay in 1876

* Capped for England

*/ Capped for England and Wales

** Capped for Scotland

^x  Capped for England whilst with a different club

5 wins	Charles Wollaston
3 wins	Jarvis Kenrick, Arthur Kinnaird, Alfred Stratford, William Lindsay, Hubert Heron
2 wins	Reginald Courtenay Welch, Alexander Bonsor, Edward Bowen, Thomas Hughes, Frederick Green, Henry Wace, Charles Denton
1 win	Edgar Lubbock, Albert Thompson, C. W. Alcock, William Crake, Thomas Hooman Edward Bowen, Morton Betts, Robert Vidal, Leonard Howell, Robert Kingsford, Charles Thompson, William Kenyon-Slaney, Julian Sturgis, Henry Holmes Stewart, W. D. O. Greig, Frederick Maddison, Francis Birley, Francis Heron, John Hawley Edwards, James Kirkpatrick, John Wylie

Blackburn Rovers 

29.03.84	Blackburn Rovers	2	1	Queen's Park
	The Oval  12,000
	Douglas, Forrest		Christie
Offside controversies- Forrest offside when he scored but Queen’s Park not appealing- Queen’s Park having 2 goals disallowed for offside (and Rovers 1). Forrest and Christie were both teens- Christie the youngest Cup Final scorer.
04.04.85	Blackburn Rovers	2	0	Queen's Park
	The Oval  12,500
	Forrest, Brown
Queen’s Park were piqued at the fact that Rovers fielded paid players.An early case for goal line technology- The Queen's Park goalkeeper scooped out a shot which appeared to many to have crossed the line- no goal.
03.04.86	Blackburn Rovers	0	0	West Bromwich Albion
	The Oval  15,000
10.04.86	Blackburn Rovers	2	0	West Bromwich Albion
(replay)	Racecourse Ground, Derby 12,000
	Brown,  Sowerbutts
The first Cup Final to be played outside London.  The FA Presented Rovers with a silver shields to commemorate their 3 successive wins.
29.03.90	Blackburn Rovers	6	1	The Wednesday
	The Oval  20,000
	Townley (3), Walton, Southworth, Lofthouse		Mumford
Schoolmaster Billy Townley scored the first hat-trick in an FA Cup Final.
21.03.91	Blackburn Rovers	3	1	Notts County
	The Oval  23,000
	Dewar, Southworth, Townley		Oswald

season	P	W	D	BYE	V	F	A
1883–84	7	7				34	4
1884–85	7	7		1		36	3
1885-86	8	7	1	1		23	4
1889–90	5	5				21	3
1890–91	6	5			1	20	4

1884	1885	1886	1890	1891
Herby Arthur*	Herby Arthur*	Herby Arthur*	Johnny Horne	Rowland Pennington
Fergus Suter s	Fergus Suters	Fergus Suters	James Southworth	Tom BrandonS
Joe Beverley*	Richard Turner	Richard Turner	John Forbes S	John ForbesS
Hugh McIntyre (c) S	George HaworthX	Joseph Heyes (Nat Walton)*	John Barton*	John Barton
Jimmy Forrest*	Hugh McIntyreS	Hugh McIntyreS	Geordie DewarS	Geordie DewarS
Joe Lofthouse*	Jimmy Forrest *	Jimmy Forrest*	Jimmy Forrest*	Jimmy Forrest*
Jimmy Douglass	Jimmy DouglasS	Jimmy DouglasS	Joe Lofthouse*	Joe Lofthouse*
John Hargreaves*	Joe Lofthouse*	Thomas StrachanS	Harry CampbellS	Coombe HallS
James Brown*	James Brown*	James Brown(c)*	Jack Southworth*	Jack Southworth*
Joe Sowerbutts	Joe Sowerbutts	Joe Sowerbutts	Nat Walton	Nat Walton
John Ingliss	Harry Fecitt	Harry Fecitt	William Townley*	William Townley*

* Capped for England

^S Scotsmen

^X Capped for England whilst with a different club

5 wins	Jimmy Forrest
4 wins	Joe Lofthouse
3 wins	Herby Arthur, Fergus Suter, Hugh McIntyre, Jimmy Douglas, James Brown, Joe Sowerbutts, Nat Walton
2 wins	Richard Turner, John Forbes, John Barton, Geordie Dewar, Jack Southworth, Harry Fecitt, William Townley
1 win	Joe Beverley, John Hargreaves, John Ingliss, George Haworth, Joseph Heyes, Thomas Strachan, Johnny Horne, James Southworth, Harry Campbell, Rowland Pennington, Tom Brandon, Coombe Hall