Showing posts with label Billy Mosforth. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Billy Mosforth. Show all posts

4.12.14

Working class hero?

 The focus of early Association football was exclusive- the preserve of young men, likely ex Public Schoolboys and university men of independent means. 
According to our research 27 players represented England before a 'working man' was included in the line up.
The schools/clubs/university affiliations of most of the players from the early days reveal their upper class backgrounds. Further insight is gleaned from their father's occupations and the professions that the players themselves pursued (often later than their footballing careers). Let's see:


Game

 school or college
1
Robert Barker
  Westminster

Father was a rector, he was a civil engineer.

1
Harwood Greenhalgh


Father Lace Manufacturer, he managed a cotton factory.

1
Reginald Courtenay Welch
 Harrow

Followed his father into the law.

1
Frederick Chappell
 Marlborough, Oxford University

Followed his father into the law.

1
William J Maynard


Legal clerk.

1
John Brockbank
 Shrewsbury, Cambridge University

Actor.

1
Charlie Clegg


Solicitor.

1
Cuthbert Ottaway
 Eton, Oxford University

Son of a surgeon, Ottaway became a barrister.

1
Charles Chenery


Articled to solicitors.

1
Kirke Smith
 Cheltenham College, Oxford University

Father was a solicitor and farmer- he was at Oxford University and went into the church.

1
Charles John Morice
 Harrow

Stockbroker, as was his father.

2
Alexander Morton


Member of the stock exchange.

2
Leonard Howell
 Winchester College

Malt Factor.

2
Lieut. Alfred G Goodwyn
 Royal Military Academy

From a military family and an officer in the Royal Engineers.

2
Walpole Vidal
Westminster, Oxford University

Went into the church.

2
Lieut. Pelham von Donop
Royal Military Academy

An officer in the Royal Engineers.

2
William Clegg


Solicitor.

2
Alexander Bonsor
 Eton

A brewer by trade, a director of Combe & Co., the family business.

2
Hubert Heron


Commercial clerk.

2
William Kenyon-Slaney
Eton , Oxford University

From a military family, an officer in the Grenadier Guards. His proper title in later life- The Right Honorable Colonel William Slaney Kenyon-Slaney MP.

3
Robert Ogilvie
Brentwood School

A member of Lloyds.

3
Alfred Hugh Stratford
Malvern College

No occupations recorded.

3
Francis Birley
Winchester College, Oxford University

Barrister.

3
Charles Wollaston
Lancing College, Oxford University

Solicitor.


3
Robert Kingsford
Marlborough College

His father was a solicitor, Robert lived on independent means.

3
J Hawley Edwards


Solicitor.
3
John Owen
Oxford University

Schoolmaster and clergyman.

What a profusion of lawyers! And then, in England's 4th international (06.03.75) William Henry Carr was one of six new 'caps' (an anachronism here). 


4
William Carr


A Metalsmith.

4
Edward Haygarth
Lancing College

Solicitor.


4
William Rawson
Westminster, Oxford University

Oxford schoolmaster, Electrical Engineer.

4
Charlie Alcock
Harrow

Sports journalist and administrator.

4
Herbert Rawson


An officer in the Royal Engineers.

4
Cpt.Richard Geaves
Harrow

An army officer.





Carr played for a number of Sheffield clubs and also represented the Sheffield Association. He was with Owlerton when he made his only international appearance, in which he came on 15 minutes late! He is described variously as A Metalsmith, a white metal smith and later a silversmith.  

Carr's fellow Sheffielder Billy Mosforth (one of seven who became the 43rd players to represent England in match #6, 03.03.77) is often cited as being England's first working class player, and he was undoubtedly a professional footballer. However, Jimmy Forrest is generally regarded as being the first professional footballer to represent England, although he was 'among others' from the leading Lancashire clubs who were representing England during the period when professionalism was sanctioned by the FA.



1.9.14

There's no 'I' in 'team'?

It may be apocryphal, but a lovely story anyhow. Professionalism is still 6 years off, and the England team is still dominated by the old Public Schoolboys and 'Varsity men. Combination play has yet to replace the old dribbling style. 
The place, Kennington Oval.
England v Scotland, March 3rd 1877.
The principals, Alfred Lyttelton and Billy Mosforth.



Alfred 
Lyttelton
Cambridge University, Member of Parliament, Queen's Counsel, Secretary of State for the Colonies.
An England Test cricketer and a superb field athlete and racquet sportsman.Lyttelton was a strapping 6ft 1 (1.85m) , and learned his football playing the Eton game. 




Billy Mosforth

One of the first England internationals to rely on a trade for his income, Mosforth was an engraver, and later a publican. 
A proto professional who turned out for 8 different Sheffield based clubs (Albion, The Wednesday, Zulus, Hallam, Rovers, Heeley, Lockwood Brothers and United) and was said to follow the money even in the days when professionalism was still outlawed. 
An all round sportsman, a runner and hurdler and a good club cricketer
There were physical differences in the classes in Victorian England, which were often in evidence when teams from the industrial north met opponents from the south- and Mosforth (5 ft 4- 1.63m) being 9 inches (22cms) shorter than Lyttleton is an example of this. 

Sheffield had taken to the combination game in the early 70s, possibly influenced by the play of the Royal Engineers. The Sheffield offside rule had also been more conducive to a passing game. Mosforth was a noted exponent of the new skill- the screw shot. He was also a very accurate crosser of the ball. 
Lyttelton  was a heads down and charge dribbler. At some point during the game , which England lost 3-1, Mosforth apparently became very annoyed at Lyttelton's selfish approach, and, unabashed by the barriers of class, let his teammate know it. We don't know what form Mosforth's admonishment took. Yorkshiremen are notoriously blunt.

Lyttelton's reply, or at least the reply he is alleged to have made, has survived.
I play, sir, for my own pleasure.

19.8.14

Sheffield and England in the 19th Century...

The City of Sheffield was a major centre of footballing development , and its influence on the evolution of the Association game cannot be overlooked.  There were Sheffield men present in the England XI right from the very start. Charlie Clegg played in the 5th 'Alcock International' and also in the first official international in 1872. Clegg, who went on to be a massively influential administrator, later complained about the snooty attitude of his southern teammates. 
During the 19th century 7 Sheffield based clubs had players capped by England:

Reverend John Robert Blayney Owen


Jack Hunter - in the 7 internationals in which he played England won only once and conceded 31 goals! He went on to lead Blackburn Olympic to FA Cup victory, being largely responsible for the professional approach they took to the game. 


Billy Mosforth-The Little Wonder, often described as England's first working class player (more on this matter in the near future) and the first player to represent both Wednesday and Sheffield United.

United's first international- Harry Lilley

 Michael Whitham


Raby Howell- the first Roma to play for England.

England's most famous 1 cap wonder? Billy Foulke

The Wednesday

Charles Clegg
Forward
1 cap
1872
William Clegg
Half Back
1 cap
1873
Billy Mosforth
Outside Left
5 caps
1877-82
Teddy Brayshaw
Centre Half
1 cap
1887
Billy Betts
Centre Half
1 cap
1889
Fred Spiksley
Outside Left
7 caps
1893-98
Tom Crawshaw
Centre Half
10 caps
1895-1904

Sheffield FC

John Owen
Forward
1 cap
1874
John Hudson
Half Back
1 cap
1883

Owlerton

William Carr
Goalkeeper
1 cap
1875

Heeley

Jack Hunter
Half Back
7 caps
1878-1882

Sheffield Albion

William Clegg
Forward
1 cap
1879
Billy Mosforth
Outside Left
4 caps
1879-80

Thursday Wanderers

Thomas Heathcote Sorby
Forward
1 cap
1879

Sheffield United

Harry Lilley
Left Back
1 Cap
1892
Michael Whitham
Right Back
1 Cap
1892
Ernest Needham
Half Back
16 Caps
1894-1902
Raby Howell
Right Half
1 Cap
1895
Billy Foulke
Goalkeeper
1 Cap
1897
Tommy Morren
Centre Half
1 Cap
1898
Harry Thickett
Right Back
2 Caps
1899